Jordan Hudgens: I'm here with the head of placement and really one of the best people that you're going to be able to interact with and to learn from. And she's really going to be the one that is going to be teaching this course, and the entire goal that we're going to be trying to achieve is to give you the tools you need to go out and find that job and build an entire mental framework for how to understand how you approach the job placement side of the world and what kind of things you can learn, and how you can improve it so that you can go and take it yourself.

So Stephanie can you talk a little bit about yourself, what you do with Bottega and some of the things you want to do in the course?

Stephanie Conley: Absolutely, my name is Stephanie Conley, I'm the director of placement here for Bottega. My background is technical recruiting, I have about 5 years of technical recruiting experience. I started out in third party recruiting which was a lot of fun, I got to see that side of contracts and how they worked and how developers are traded and headhunted.

So that's fantastic because I can give our students insights on how to work with third-party recruiters. And then I switched over to internal recruiting for a software company, so I worked internally as talent acquisition to find long term employees for that company.

Jordan: So Stephanie, since you've been with Bottega, but you've also been with a number of other organizations in a similar role on both sides of it. What are some of the key differences you've noticed with code school students and code school graduates getting a job and some of the things they have to do differently than say someone who comes from a computer science degree background where they've got a bachelor's in computer science and a more traditional route? What's been your experience with them?

Stephanie: So first of all, the thing to acknowledge is the sensitivity around there. We have people who spent four years working on their degrees. They're proud of it and it's not always a nice feeling when someone can take a three-month course and get right into it. So acknowledging that those fillings are there and to be careful about how you word your schooling experience.

Another thing that I've noticed is most boot camp grads don't know which jobs to apply for. So it's the, you know, you send out and pray. But they're applying to a lot of senior roles and they're picking the wrong ones. So knowing what roles to apply for, that you qualify for, and also knowing where you stand amongst your peers with development strength.

Jordan: Fantastic, and really that's going to be the focal point of this entire course. This is what Stephanie has been doing internally for the Bottega code school students for quite a while and we decided we wanted to actually make it into a course so that it could be referenced by you and you could learn from it.

And our focus is not just going to be on how to get a developer job or something like that. It's going to specifically be on how to get a developer job as a code school graduate. Because there is a very different approach compared with some of those out there, and we want to make sure that you're as equipped as you need to be in order to do that.